What should be the mcp temperature in the computer. Permissible temperatures for the processor, video card and other components. Operating temperatures of computer components
Question: Aida64 began to display the temperature incorrectly
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Until recently, I used Aida64 when checking the temperature and it showed as accurately as possible the temperature of the processor cores (AMD FX 8350), it was by them that I was guided, since in the case of this percentage, this temperature was the most correct. After reinstalling Windows, Aida began to show the temperature incorrectly, namely, to sharply overestimate the indicators to 70 degrees and above, while not even under heavy load, while my computer goes into reboot if the temperature is 61 degrees and above, as a rule, but here it works ok, in general, the readings are definitely not correct, and the cooler is quite cold to the touch. I tried other programs to determine the temperature, but for some reason they all do not show the temperature of the cores, and it is exactly what I need. What to do in this case and can it be that the thermal sensor has failed or is broken?
Answer: First of all, because when my processor reaches a temperature of 60-62 degrees, my computer automatically goes into reboot and I have repeatedly seen (I often monitor the temperature during games or just idle) that just this temperature was shown before rebooting it was the Cores and literally immediately the computer rebooted, while the temperature of the processor was much lower there, and the cooler was quite hot to the touch, so the logic is simple
Question: Temperature of the GTX 970 graphics card
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I ran into a problem with the heating of the msi 970 gaming card. At default cooler speed in games, it heats up to 72c. If the cooler graph is corrected through the afterburner, then it can be stopped at 65s and the cooler is 60-70%. Now I have a schedule so that the cooler at a card temperature of 62c is already spinning 70% +. Bottom line: at 62s the card freezes in any top game at max settings, the cooler is 70-75%.
Everything seems to be fine, 62 and even 72c is the usual operating temperature of a 970 card in serious games. However, I would like to lower the temperature and not torment the cooler like that. Now I will explain with an example.
I have an i7 4790k processor with a box cooler, not overclocked. The temperature sometimes reached 77C (cores up to 89). As a result, I was advised to turn off the turbo boost ( base frequency 4000, with a boost of 4400), which I did in the BIOS. The cpu temperature in the same game has already become 65s maximum. Then, through the "control panel - power supply - power plan setting - processor power management" I changed the "maximum processor state" parameter to 80%. As a result, it began to work at a maximum frequency of 3200 (instead of 4000), and the temperature in the most difficult games did not exceed 56c so far. Since 3200 frequencies of that processor are enough for games (I think even 2000 will be enough), I did not get any friezes or loss of fps.
So that's the question. Is it possible to somehow disable the video card boost or lower the frequency? Msi afterburner shows 1329 in games (it should be 1140 MHz and 1279 MHz in Boost mode, well, not the point). Is it possible to disable boost via msi afterburner? Has anyone tried to lower the temperature by lowering the frequency? Is the lowering of the frequency fraught with something?
I asked such questions on the overlockers forum, the answers were extremely funny. Someone who assured me that the case heats the air (I opened it completely, checked it, it’s no use; there is also someone familiar with the top case, the same card and the same temperature), someone began to declare that I didn’t need it, they say, from 70- 80s sit and rejoice. Well, they even tried to assure me that the i7 4790k with a reduced frequency to 3200 is equal or even worse than the i3 (i.e. the i7 3770 was automatically equated to the i3). Unfortunately, no intelligible answers were given to the questions raised.
I apologize if the questions seem too Nubian in some way and I hope for your help.
Answer:
Message from zewer
to reduce the temperature, you need to reduce the power of the video card - reduce the frequencies, reduce the voltage
This is interesting. I know that overclocking is risky. A downlock does not threaten anything? Nothing happens there from the lack?
Maybe someone on 970 maps through the afterberner already performed such manipulations? What exactly was changed, how, what is the result? There are only articles on overclocking on the Internet, and I even have no idea whether the same thing needs to be lowered, which is increased during overclocking, whether in the same way and whether there are any risks.
Question: Acer Aspire 6930 - Maximum Component Temperatures
Har-ki laptop:
Percent - Intel core 2 duo t6400 (2.00 Ghz)
Mob. video card - GeForce 9600m GT (500 Mhz clock frequency, 1gb video memory, 128bit bit).
Actually, we are interested in the maximum allowable (normal) temperature values of the video card and processor in idle and operation modes.
The processor temperature in idle mode is kept at about 46-49, and in the stress test under 60. (not sure if such temperature parameters are normal in idle mode?)
The temperature of the video card in idle mode is 51-60 (usually 60), in stress testing mode it rises much higher.
I tested Furkmark "ohm and found that the temperature of the video. Almost immediately reached 103 degrees, while its load level during the test almost immediately dropped by 80%, and then by 60%, and throttling occurred - about 151 mhz skipping from the available 500. ( Furmark gave out immediately and during twenty minutes of testing from 2 to 3 Fps.)
At the same time, there were no special problems with the processor during the test of the video card, the laptop cover is not hot either in the idle system or during testing.
So I would like to know what parameters should correspond to the temperature of a video card in idle mode and especially in operation? The same goes for the processor. It is desirable to know more precisely, because even if some increments in degrees are now insignificant for the same processor, then it may be worse in the future.
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I did not notice in my question a request for help with laptop cooling. I asked about what temperatures are acceptable for this laptop model. Not mine personally, but in general. Will I cool it or not ... there was no question of that.
Question: When installing a repack or disk image, what temperature peaks are normal?
noticed that during installation (especially repack) I have a peak temperature of 75 degrees
When working with a disk image - the temperature is maximum 55 degrees
(I'm talking about the average temperature of the processor cores)
iron is:
i7 4770 K (box cooling)
gtx 970 (maximum temperature 55 degrees)
97z
there is a jump in temperature - then the cooling is visible to a new stage and the temperature goes astray
The question is - is such a jump in temperature normal for the processor? Or is it worth thinking about a new cooling?
Answer: I'm not overclocking anything yet. In general, how much is it necessary to change the cooler and which one would you recommend?
+ maybe it's worth just changing the temperature profile in the BIOS? Is it cooling after switching the mode everything is normal?
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+ can record the temperature dynamics on the Aida (somehow there are logs doing this) and see how much it costs to install another cooler - when I will already overclock (if I need it at all) then I will change the cooler. + my built-in graphics core is inactive, is it completely if the differential video card is working or is it partially occupied by something?
Question: How do I specify the temperature of the vidyuhi, upon reaching which the computer will turn itself off?
How to indicate in a laptop with a vondy 10 the temperature of the vidyuhi when it reaches which the computer will turn off itself? if in bios how to get there?
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How to indicate in a laptop with a vondy 10 the temperature of the vidyuhi upon reaching which the computer will turn off itself
As for the operating temperature of the video card, there are different opinions, one thing is for sure: these values are higher than for central processing unit and may differ depending on the specific video card, for that matter, here's what you can find on the official NVIDIA website:
NVIDIA GPUs are designed to operate reliably at their maximum specifications. This temperature is different for different GPUs, but in general it is 105 degrees Celsius. When the maximum temperature of the video card is reached, the driver will start throttling (skipping clock cycles, artificial slowdown). If this does not lower the temperature, the system will automatically shut down to avoid damage.
depending on the model, the normal temperature of a video card (which has not been overclocked) is considered to be from 30 to 60 grams.
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I assure you the manufacturer took care of overheating, it all depends on the temperature sensors, try not to get in there, because the consequences are sad
Question: The temperature of the processor is at Acer aspire v3-571 g
CPU Type Mobile DualCore Intel Core i3-3120M, 2500 MHz (25 x 100)
Sensor properties:
Sensor type CPU, HDD, PCH, SNB
GP sensor type Diode (NV-Diode)
Temperatures:
CPU Package 62 ° C (144 ° F)
CPU IA Cores 62 ° C (144 ° F)
CPU GT Cores 61 ° C (142 ° F)
CPU 1 / Core 1 62 ° C (144 ° F)
CPU 1 / Core 2 61 ° C (142 ° F)
Diode PCH 63 ° C (145 ° F)
HP diode 48 ° C (118 ° F)
WDC WD7500BPVT-22HXZT3 36 ° C (97 ° F)
Voltages:
CPU core 0.916 V
Battery 10.606 V
GPU core 0.812 V
This temperature in idle, with loads of high-resolution video and games reaches 85-87 degrees, Acer aspire v3-571g laptop. I myself cleaned the cooling system and lubricated titanium nano green with good thermal paste with a thermal conductivity of 4.5, in the place of the radiator the hot part of the cover panel blows hot, tell it normal or not, why is it so hot?
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Are these normal temperatures, when before KPT-8 was lubricated, it cut itself off at 90 degrees, now it did not cut off nirazu knocks down the temperature. after 4 hours of play, 85 was the maximum on the first core. why am I asking on another laptop I have amd a6 and there, in 100 percent CPU load in the 1 hour test, the temperature did not rise above 55 gaduses, in idle there is 30-35
Answer: that's pretty much the same as in the video
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I wondered if the CPU temperature shouldn't be so high. But then I dug around and found a video, maybe it really is normal temperature
Approximately for me, as in the video and it is in GTA 5, and in this case, on average and at maximum, it robots 30 fps, but it heats up to horror then
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great car. it would only cool down well and it will be all top type
Question: The maximum allowable temperature of the H77 chipset
Good day! Please tell me what temperature is considered the maximum allowable for the H77 chipset? On the arch, this link does not indicate the maximum temperature, and elsewhere I have not found information about the maximum temperature of this chipset. Please tell me where and how to find this information?
Thanks!
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Maybe there is something better soldered there, but this is not a fact.
The solder there is standard, tin (or very close to it) with a melting point of 220-230 ° C.
The trouble is overheating in the thermal movement (expansion and shrinkage) of the substrate and balls of solder between the crystal and the substrate, and in the compound, which does not allow the crystal to move relative to the substrate. The balls eventually come off.
Overheating protection is probably worth more to prevent chip malfunction due to degradation of silicon transistors (of which the chip mainly consists) when operating at elevated temperatures, the failure temperature of which is something about 150 ° C. When approaching this temperature, they start to malfunction, which will lead to freezes and other troubles.
To prevent this from happening, there are all sorts of T-cases, T-jankshans and thermal throttling.
And, of course, it is better not to bring this up to this, and keep the temperature as low as possible.
Question: Athlon 860k. Strange temperature readings
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CPU: AMD Athlon 860k.
Motherboard: Gigabyte F2A58M-S1
CPU Cooling: DEEPCOOL Ice Edge Mini FS V2.0
Thermal paste: Arctic cooling mx-2
Everything is new and just delivered. No dust. Two hulls for blowing and blowing.
I attach a screen of the processor stress test. Data from sensors in Aida and speccy.
The temperature of the processor cover in Aida is equal to the temperature of the near-socket sensor on the motherboard = 36 (if I understood correctly).
And the temperatures of the processor cores do not converge. In Hades - 22, in speccy - 72.
Feel radiator tubes, radiator heel, rear motherboard lukewarm. About the same as HDD... (i.e. ~ 30-40 gr.)
There were no failures or errors during the stress test.
Questions:
1) Which of the programs to believe?
2) Is it possible that the temperatures of the cores and the lid differ by 40 grams? Maybe the heat sink from the cores is broken? (There is like thermal paste too)
3) What temperature does the overheating protection target? At what temperature should the percent drop the frequencies?
4) If the cores are really 70 degrees, would I feel it near the processor? Behind the motherboard? The textolite is not so weakly heated from the power circuit. From the processor at 70 gr. would heat up too, right?
5) If the stress test did not reveal any failures and errors, does this mean that you can safely use the computer without fear of anything? I experienced a lot of stress tests.
Temperatures of their computer or laptop, some users pay attention to a certain component called MCP. In most cases, its temperature exceeds 50 - 60 degrees. And here a quite reasonable question arises: What is MCP in a computer and what temperature is normal for it?
What is it?
The abbreviation MCP should be understood as south bridge motherboard. This is a microcircuit that is found in the lower right corner in most motherboards. It is almost always covered with a cooling radiator.
Location of the south bridge on the motherboard
The main responsibilities of the south bridge are management and maintenance USB connectors, sound and network cards, SATA and IDE devices, BIOS, etc.
In modern motherboards and laptops, the south bridge may be absent as a separate microcircuit. The processor does not take on its responsibilities either. That is why not everyone in AIDA64 has an MCP temperature. Although this may still be due to the lack of a temperature sensor on it.
MCP is missing from the Aida64 temperature list
What is the normal temperature for the MCP?
In general, the lower the temperature of any component of a computer or laptop, the better. After all, it directly affects the durability of the device.
The most common symptom of the failure of the south bridge and, as a result, expensive repairs, is.
If we take specifically the south bridge, then for it the temperature in the range of 40-70 degrees is normal. Otherwise, you should pay attention to it. Clean the radiator from dust, replace the thermal grease and install additional fan blowing.
An example of installing a fan for blowing the south bridge
Hello everyone MCP, is that where you saw this? Honestly, I don't know where you saw this, but I've only seen it in programs that measure the temperature of a computer. There is such as MCP. And so I always wondered, what is it? If you decipher the word MCP, then there will be such a phrase as Media and Communications Processor, which means the motherboard chipset, and yes, it heats up!
But what is the normal MCP temperature? Well, normal I think it is around 50 degrees and below, but if you have 60-70, it means that the chipset asks for cooling! It is better to hang some kind of fan on top, power it with 5 volts and it will work quietly and the chipset will not heat up!
I also found out that nForce chipsets get hotter than the others, because of this, soldering can go away, the chip can stupidly burn out, and the board can fly in general !!! But damn it, I don't remember what kind of chipset I have, but I know that its temperature is in the region of 30-40 degrees, in principle I think this is the norm.
This is where the chipset is located, roughly in this area:
Well, this is an old motherboard, but on the new ones in about the same place. You just see, in the picture above, there is NO RADIATOR, but on other motherboards it is! That is, somewhere there, somewhere not, but if the chip loves to warm up, they usually install a radiator. But if you put a fan on top, it will be generally super
And in general I am NOT SURE of this infe, but I WILL WRITE: it seems that MCP refers only to those motherboards that have an nForce chipset, and this is from NVIDIA. This is how the chipset itself looks like, by the way nForce 2:
Well, only he's not here on the motherboard of course, but so to speak separately
Here on this motherboard there is definitely an nVidia chipset, no questions asked:
By the way, this motherboard, it is listed in the red book, so to speak, for a rare och and an old och and in general at that time it was LUXURY! This is a top-end motherboard called Chaintech 7NJS, I don't even know such a company, and in general there weren't many such motherboards! The motherboard was under AMD and was worth a lot of money! Eh, pancake nostalgia! I found something on the net, this is a kit of this motherboard, well, sorry, I probably got you already, but I liked the kit so much that I want to show it to you too, see:
Guys, this is just WEALTH ... ... Eh, I would have been given such a motherboard at that time ... Well, at what time then? Well, I'll say, it's about nuuu about 14 years ago there was a motherboard like this, and now 2017 is coming! The grade is simply divine at the time! It's just NO WORDS !!!
So, okay, something I got carried away. All the guys, we will finish, I hope that everything was clear to you here, if something is wrong, then do not scold. Good luck and I'll be glad to see you again.
17.05.2017Very often we meet with problems of PC components, their malfunctioning, failures, etc. It is very difficult for an ordinary user to diagnose a problem. And here comes to our aid, replacing the famous EVEREST. In general, it is not so different from its counterpart, however, Everest constantly changed the data, gave inaccurate results, etc. AIDA64 is free from almost all of these drawbacks. So, let's look at the program interface.
Here we see a lot of tabs, various icons, buttons, etc. Almost all of them are designed so that the user can find out about the characteristics of the components of his computer. For example, by clicking the " Motherboard»We will see a window like this:
Here you can see information about the CPU (Central Processing Unit), random access memory, find out the BIOS version, etc. In principle, we do not really need this, but if you are interested, then you can easily study all this on your own. If we talk specifically about diagnostics, then firstly, using this program, you can check the temperatures of the video card, CPU, bridges, etc. To do this, open the tab “ A computer", And in the window that appears, press the" sensors "button.
After which we will see something like this:
In principle, the temperatures that you see in the screenshot are almost ideal, but yours can be very different from these values. So the temperature motherboard(motherboard) in idle time should not exceed 35 degrees, CPU temperature - 50, MCP (south bridge) - 70, hard drive (hard disk) - 35. If the temperatures are normal, then you can leave everything as it is, and if increased, then need to think about new system cooling. But first, check if the current one is built correctly. In total, two coolers (fans) are needed on the case, one in front for blowing in cold air, the second at the back for blowing out hot air. If there is only one cooler installed in the system, then it should stand at the back for blowing out.
So, the temperatures are normal and we can find out the average performance of the system. To do this, open the tab “ Test»In the left menu.
Here are summaries and information about the performance of various equipment, among which look for yours. You may need to replace something to get the best performance. The main thing is not to chase the best, in principle, average devices are enough. Well, at the end, we will test the system, let's see to what temperature our components heat up under load. To do this, click on the button " Service" v top menu, and there we choose “ System stability test».
The following window will appear in front of us:
We put all the checkboxes as in the screenshot, as this is necessary for a complete check of the components. Then we press the button " Start».
It is necessary to leave the computer for 5 minutes, then press the button " Stop". Next, go to the tab “ Statistics»
It is here that we see the maximum, minimum, as well as average temperatures of components. If the maximum temperature is several times higher than the minimum, then this is already a cause for concern. And if the computer shuts down during the test, then this is 100% overheating. In this case, we run the test again, and monitor the temperatures until shutdown. The processor forcibly turns off the computer at 75-90 degrees, it all depends on the architecture of the crystal. In general, if the temperatures under load deviate very much from the temperatures at idle (several times), then this is a clear sign of overheating, which means that it is necessary to change the cooling system.
There are many more features of the AIDA64 program, which you can learn about yourself.
Hello everyone! I am an electronics technician by profession. Somehow there was not much work and went to the factory as a mechanic. Rather, it is not a factory, but a pilot production. A grade 2 crust appeared in my school on the Criminal Procedure Code. A year later, the third was assigned, a fourth year later, and so it went. At first it was creepy. Dirty robes, everything in oil, some kind of iron, swearing, machines howl so that after the oscilloscopes and Blok and Khodasevich, whom I then read, I felt a little uncomfortable. But what can I say - I was afraid to approach the drilling machine, every second tap broke, and in blind holes almost every first one. They gave me a mentor - a big-headed man, but drinking. In principle, everyone there was like that or almost everything. Drinkers and low drinkers. Later I visited the factories and realized that our pilot production (the former sharashka) and our locksmith are Google and Facebook in one bottle in the world of locksmiths. The main difference from the plant is a large number of thinking people. In the factory, what I have seen is not the case. There is a turner at the lathe, the emulsion cranks in all directions, and he drives the marriage with a scythe in the morning and everyone to the lantern. 20 years of experience with the third grade and he is fine. Our turner treats the machine as a friend or better.
What is the job or profession of an ITS locksmith? MSR - mechanical assembly work. So all sorts of mechanisms are going. They give you a drawing of an assembly of some unit, a gearbox, for example, you sit and figure it out. And along with the assembly drawing, there are still a bunch of drawings for parts. Science, then, has developed; Technologists have laid out on the shelves - in what sequence to produce the parts - the stages from the workpiece through the milling machine, thermist, turner, welder, borer, electroplating and others, and you collect the finished parts together.
How is the day going. They came, changed, hungover. Joke. In recent years, they have almost stopped drinking, everyone has new clothes, almost clean, but the machines are all old. 60-70s.
Tea in the locker room or soda in the hallway was sipped at the workbench. Some assemblies take months, but there are others, so there are blueprints on the table, on the wall, and parts in the drawers. The three of us are sitting in our locksmith in our workshop. We only have collectors. So there is a place.
As a rule, a plan is drawn up in my head for the day, but still in the morning the master comes with an inspection and gives some new tasks. I don't like that. Worst of all, when I marked the part, I set myself up to drill a bulky part with all sorts of adaptations on the machine, I agreed with the welder that in two hours I would weld this part to him, and for you, they drilled a couple of 48 holes. doing.
Pilot production is not a factory, I would not have worked there for a year. And then 15 years. There is more freedom here, but the work is more difficult and more interesting. The engineer could have made a mistake and the technologists overlooked, and when my parts are not going to be assembled due to the fact that there is M16 thread on one and M14 thread on the other, and you cannot drill it yourself with the engineer and the technologist, you figure out the options, but for now they are all They cheat and correct, do another order. Gradually you begin to understand assembly technology, welding, turning, milling.
In the evening, the master will come running again - you will tell and show what you did. But that rarely happens. You see a master 5 times a day and solve 2-3 questions, so he is always aware.
The contingent of the workshop is different. Mostly about 40. There are also under 80, and there is no one under 25 years old. If on the 6th category with overtime 50 thousand in the salary does not always come out, then the young and 20 thousand will not be typed.
What else to tell? Ask, I will run in - I will answer.
